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America Has Decided to Lose the War!
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It is time for the US to take the leash off it’s military and let them wrap this thing up in Iraq so we can get on with Iran!
I haven’t been this frustrated with the “Government” running a war since Johnson and McNamara!
Either we are in it to win, or we need to get the hell out!
There is no reason to allow our Soldiers and Marines to get picked off as we are doing. When the government forces them to fight with their hands tied behind them… they get killed. It is a long “drawn out slaughter” which wears them down mentally.
I sincerely thought we had learned something from Viet Nam! Apparently not!
Some have called this a “minimalist effort” at fighting this war. I interpret that to mean that we fight it with as little effort as is possible. (Just enough to stay even with the board… but not enough to gain a clear victory.) I must tell you… that is pure, 100%, unadulterated, BS!
The frustration of the grunts must be absolutely awful!
Add to that mix an anti-war movement, on the left, in the USA, and you have a formula for ridicule and defeat. The “useful idiots” of the left are responsible for most of the deaths of US military personnel in Iraq. The give aid and comfort to the enemy… on a daily basis.
As I see it, the US needs to do only two things to regain its position of respect in the world.
One: Unleash it’s military!
Two: Lock up, put in jail, imprison, whatever…those who practice Sedition in the US. I mean from the top to the bottom. From the halls of Congress to the neighborhood beer hall.
Notice… I didn’t mention “winning hearts and minds”. That is a formula for a loser. I don’t give a hoot whether they like us or not. I want them to fear us! I want them to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that if they strike at the US they will pay with everything they have… including their home, their family, their country, their lives… everything!
It is shameful to place our military in the position they are in. We’re demanding that those kids march into harm’s way… and not fight back!
When they temporarily "lose it" and clean out a “rats nest” they wind up facing a court martial and imprisonment when they ought to be given medals!
Look, this is a dog eat dog world. The bad guys don’t play nice! As long as WE play nice we will continue to be trounced… all over the world.
Turn our guys loose and let them do the job. They’ll clean that mess up, in the Middle East, in short order.
Let them use tactical nukes when they need to use them! Let THEM decide when! There are a few towns in Iraq that would be better nuked. Clean out the cancer, which is infecting the whole area.
There is no reason to set our military up for defeat as we are doing. Our soldiers will fight… when they are allowed to do so!
What a pathetic mess we are. Our politicians are wringing their hands because they are “deeply concerned” that the world won’t like us!
Who gives a DAMN WHAT the world thinks?!
I learned, as a child, that people would believe of me what they liked. It mattered little, if at all, what I did or, didn’t do. So, I have lived my life on my own terms. You don’t like it? Tough!
But to watch our nation destroy itself, whining about who likes us and who doesn’t, is embarrassing, even painful.
The Prez should call in the Joint Chiefs and give them the order to: “Take Iraq”. Period! “Call me when it’s done. I have something else for you to do.” Then get out of the way and let them do their job.
No doubt I’ll hear for some of you that the US should never be the first to use nukes. Well, BS! We blew that one, didn’t we? And come to think of it… we WON!
What’s the point of having them if we’re not going to use them? I know. I know. As a deterrent! Well, deterrents only work when you are fighting someone who actually gives a damn whether they live, or die, like the Russians, for instance. But this crowd we’re fighting now, couldn’t care less whether they live or not. So, why put American fighting men in harms way. Just NUKE the bastards and be done with it!
Yes, I AM frustrated! I’m frustrated at a piss-ant Congress that wets its collective pants when a pneumatic hammer makes a bang in the building! I’m frustrated at the ever-increasing speed at which America is sliding into socialism. I’m frustrated at the loss of Greatness in America. I’m frustrated at the lack of spine in the American people.
I don’t like my country to be the butt of jokes… as it is now. And I really don’t like getting our young men, and young women, killed because our leaders haven’t a clue how to lead!
You want an end to this war? Well forget about it. Until America DECIDES TO WIN IT… we’ll keep on losing!
Longstreet
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It is time for the US to take the leash off it’s military and let them wrap this thing up in Iraq so we can get on with Iran!
I haven’t been this frustrated with the “Government” running a war since Johnson and McNamara!
Either we are in it to win, or we need to get the hell out!
There is no reason to allow our Soldiers and Marines to get picked off as we are doing. When the government forces them to fight with their hands tied behind them… they get killed. It is a long “drawn out slaughter” which wears them down mentally.
I sincerely thought we had learned something from Viet Nam! Apparently not!
Some have called this a “minimalist effort” at fighting this war. I interpret that to mean that we fight it with as little effort as is possible. (Just enough to stay even with the board… but not enough to gain a clear victory.) I must tell you… that is pure, 100%, unadulterated, BS!
The frustration of the grunts must be absolutely awful!
Add to that mix an anti-war movement, on the left, in the USA, and you have a formula for ridicule and defeat. The “useful idiots” of the left are responsible for most of the deaths of US military personnel in Iraq. The give aid and comfort to the enemy… on a daily basis.
As I see it, the US needs to do only two things to regain its position of respect in the world.
One: Unleash it’s military!
Two: Lock up, put in jail, imprison, whatever…those who practice Sedition in the US. I mean from the top to the bottom. From the halls of Congress to the neighborhood beer hall.
Notice… I didn’t mention “winning hearts and minds”. That is a formula for a loser. I don’t give a hoot whether they like us or not. I want them to fear us! I want them to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that if they strike at the US they will pay with everything they have… including their home, their family, their country, their lives… everything!
It is shameful to place our military in the position they are in. We’re demanding that those kids march into harm’s way… and not fight back!
When they temporarily "lose it" and clean out a “rats nest” they wind up facing a court martial and imprisonment when they ought to be given medals!
Look, this is a dog eat dog world. The bad guys don’t play nice! As long as WE play nice we will continue to be trounced… all over the world.
Turn our guys loose and let them do the job. They’ll clean that mess up, in the Middle East, in short order.
Let them use tactical nukes when they need to use them! Let THEM decide when! There are a few towns in Iraq that would be better nuked. Clean out the cancer, which is infecting the whole area.
There is no reason to set our military up for defeat as we are doing. Our soldiers will fight… when they are allowed to do so!
What a pathetic mess we are. Our politicians are wringing their hands because they are “deeply concerned” that the world won’t like us!
Who gives a DAMN WHAT the world thinks?!
I learned, as a child, that people would believe of me what they liked. It mattered little, if at all, what I did or, didn’t do. So, I have lived my life on my own terms. You don’t like it? Tough!
But to watch our nation destroy itself, whining about who likes us and who doesn’t, is embarrassing, even painful.
The Prez should call in the Joint Chiefs and give them the order to: “Take Iraq”. Period! “Call me when it’s done. I have something else for you to do.” Then get out of the way and let them do their job.
No doubt I’ll hear for some of you that the US should never be the first to use nukes. Well, BS! We blew that one, didn’t we? And come to think of it… we WON!
What’s the point of having them if we’re not going to use them? I know. I know. As a deterrent! Well, deterrents only work when you are fighting someone who actually gives a damn whether they live, or die, like the Russians, for instance. But this crowd we’re fighting now, couldn’t care less whether they live or not. So, why put American fighting men in harms way. Just NUKE the bastards and be done with it!
Yes, I AM frustrated! I’m frustrated at a piss-ant Congress that wets its collective pants when a pneumatic hammer makes a bang in the building! I’m frustrated at the ever-increasing speed at which America is sliding into socialism. I’m frustrated at the loss of Greatness in America. I’m frustrated at the lack of spine in the American people.
I don’t like my country to be the butt of jokes… as it is now. And I really don’t like getting our young men, and young women, killed because our leaders haven’t a clue how to lead!
You want an end to this war? Well forget about it. Until America DECIDES TO WIN IT… we’ll keep on losing!
Longstreet
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Longstreet,
ReplyDeleteI appreciate this post so much because you post much of what I feel, but cannot express it as eliquently as you do. We must go in with overwhelming force and show all of these Islamic Extremists that they cannot win and that their only option is to lay down thier weapons and join their elected government and be a part of the country.
I saw John "Defeatist" Murtha this morning on Meet the Press and he sounded so defeated and he thinsk that ourt military is weak and that we cannot win in Iraq. That is the most disgusting thing that I have heard coming from a so called War Hero and a man that claims he is a patriot. He wants to cut funding for our troops just to force our brave men and women out of Iraq because he thinks they cannot win in Iraq. Tim Russert asked him point blank on numerous ocassions about his desire to cut funding and everytime he sidestpped the question in true Democrat style and claimed that it won't happen because he doesn't have enough votes to cut funding for our brave men and women in Iraq.
Rosecovered,
I appreciate you candor, but if you truly feel that the Military Industrial Complex is such a problem then why were you a part of it for 36 years as you claim? Without the Military Industrial Complex where exactly would we be as far as military hardware that is keeping us in the forefront of world military might?
I agree that politics as usual neds to change, but to scrap the whole apparatus isn't a guaranty it will fix everything.
The main problem behind the conduct of the Iraq War ( and all other conflict post 1945 ) is the world holds the western military powers up to a certain standard. We are expected to behave in a gentlemanly and polite manner. National media organisations ABC, CNN, BBC etc, are curiously quiet when it is time to hold international terrorist organisations, FARC, ETA, RIRA, CIRA, Hezbollah, Hamas etc responsible for their conduct. No words of dissent have passed the lips of the UN, EU or the Arab States on the mass sectarian murders taking place daily in Iraq. It is far easier to aportion blame on coalition forces, and more specifically the US, for the deaths of Iraqi policemen murdered by their fellow citizens. Those who argue that the US or UK have violated the Geneva Conventions in the conduct of the war ignore the blatant violations of Iraqi/Syrian/Iranian/Pakistani insurgents, whose members wear no uniform, deliberately hide amongst the civilian population and fire weapons from residential areas. These forces conduct none of their operations within the ‘rules of war’ — and yet the international community and western media fail to mention it. Why? Because no one expects terrorists to follow the rules.
ReplyDeleteThe old style of warfare, the clash of mass national armies—the system of war since Napoleon, ended above Hiroshima. The West failed to understand this due to the cold war.
Regards
Wha Wadna Fecht for Charlie
"The old style of warfare, the clash of mass national armies—the system of war since Napoleon, ended above Hiroshima."
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Absolutely "spot on"!
"Charlie", is the UK as screwed-up as the US over this "PC" war fighting??? I ask... for it is my opinion that we are not going to be able to sustain this kind of posture in war zones, anywhere in the world, and walk away victorious... ever again.
Best regards,
Longstreet
Thank you, Rosecoveredd glasses for that answer. However, I did not ask the question, Jon did. Nevertheless your answer has been informative and certainly added a great deal to this blog. I appreciate it. Insight is what it is all about, anyway.
ReplyDeleteAlso, Rosecovered, allow me to express my gratitude for your service to this country. You have a hell of a resume. One you should certainly be proud of.
Also, allow me to extend an invitation for your input on this blogsite anytime. I may not always agree with you, but you present your arguments in a well reasoned, cogent, and mannerly fashion, and I, and my readers, appreciate it.
I salute you sir.
Best regards,
Longstreet
"Charlie", is the UK as screwed-up as the US over this "PC" war fighting???
ReplyDeleteI think you already know the answer. The worst offenders at denigrating and embarrassing Britain are the British. I do not think the war was winnable from day one.
There is too much infighting among the Western powers. Nobody can agree on what is a terrorist. Hezbollah is not a terrorist organisation according to the EU! Most of the EU has a problem with the UK because we are friendlier to the US than to Europe and there are those in the US that poor scorn on us because we are part of the EU. We can’t win.
Personally, I think the media has a lot to answer for. For example, the BBC has 8500 journalists, so many in fact, that some of them are ‘embedded’ with the Taliban in Afghanistan. When I did my tour, my wife was watching reports of the BBC interviewing Taliban regional commanders in Helmand Province. Could you imagine sitting at home on 6th June 1944 listening to reports by CNN, BBC etc embedded with the 4 SS Panzer Division? When I first joined the Army I was taught the role of Infantry was: "To seek and close with the enemy, to kill or capture him, to seize and hold ground, by day or by night regardless of weather or terrain" It did not include that my role was to roll over and take a kicking from a self serving sensationalist media, there to criticise with clinical detail every move I made on the battlefield from the comfort of a climate controlled office, in order to allow them to get some Oxbridge educated human rights idiot on the BBC and continue to undermine the morale of the troops.
Another example. Later on this month on St Patrick’s Day, you will see pictures of your Commander in Chief in the Rose Garden shaking hands with the leaders of Sinn Fein. Whether you agree or not with their politics the fact remains they are/were terrorists. The fact that they took 30 years to murder the same total as those that were murdered on 9/11 does not lessen the fact that they have no morals. They organise ‘fund raising events’ and political rallies for Hamas/Hezbollah/FARC/ETA as they see themselves as part of the great oppressed of the world by the ‘imperialist nations.’ Sinn Fein and Hezbollah are one of the same, a political party with an armed gang in tow or is it an armed gang with a political party in tow? A large proportion of UK troops in Afghanistan at present are form Northern Ireland – seeing the leader of the war on terror meeting and greeting those that have spent the past 30 years trying to overthrow democracy in their country does not send out the right message. This is what confuses one or two of us dumb Europeans. There are no acceptable terrorists.
Best Wishes
Charlie, let me see if I have this correct? You believe the war cannot be won… not because the troops aren’t capable of winning it, but because the US, the UK, and the other “Western Countries” are not behind the troops? Is that it.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you, reference all the terrorist organizations including those headquartered in Ireland.
I wonder what your opinion is concerning whether we shall ever see peace in the western world (defined as we have known peace in the past) ever again. My opinion is that we will not.
Best regards to you!
Longstreet
Here's the answer to your question on peace:
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Here's the answer to your question on peace:
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“Charlie, let me see if I have this correct? You believe the war cannot be won… not because the troops aren’t capable of winning it, but because the US, the UK, and the other “Western Countries” are not behind the troops? Is that it?”
ReplyDeleteOnly Western liberal elites would argue that by liberating Iraq from Saddam Hussein the Shias, Sunnis and Kurds would all kiss and make up. We (the West) are attempting to impose our values, a competitive multiparty political system, universal adult suffrage, regularly contested elections etc, on the Middle East, where historically there has never been the slightest glimpse of democracy taking hold. Name any three Arab democracies? The only people left in Iraq are those too poor or too stupid to leave, the remainder would like to kill you. Hardly the building blocks of a budding democracy. We cannot force democracy on somebody, they have to grasp it for themselves - this is why I believe that a final victory will always be beyond our grasp. The success of the invasion was never in question, the problem was always ‘what to do after we had over-run the country?’ If we had packed up and all returned home, the media and left-wing would have cried foul, if we stayed they would have complained of occupation/empire/imperialism. That is why I believe it was unwinable from the start - we are our own worst enemy. The West believes that all cultures and races are equal. They are not. Our capacity for equality may be true, but when the Romans left Britain the indigenous population forgot all about aqueducts, under floor heating and democracy and slipped into the dark ages. The populations of the Middle East/Islamic countries have contributed little or nothing to the modern development of this planet. If Western Society became extinct next weekend, the entire world would revert to a new dark age.
“I wonder what your opinion is concerning whether we shall ever see peace in the western world (defined as we have known peace in the past) ever again. My opinion is that we will not.”
I totally agree. Allow me to quote- “I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat.”
Regards
Thanks, "Charlie". I see nothing to disagree with in what you have written above.
ReplyDeleteThis is the kind of "mess" we get into when we try to "nation-build". For the life of me, I cannot understand where we came up with the arrogance to believe that we could actually build a nation, especially one with no solid foundation... at least with no foundation in the modern world!
I can only hope that we learn from this... but I won't hold my breath. We Americans have extremely short memories. I had hoped we had learned from the Viet Nam experience... but, sadly, I was wrong!
Best regards, "Charlie"!
Longstreet
PS: One of these days I'm gonna ask for an interpretation of:
"Wha Wadna Fecht for Charlie"